If you haven't heard of Matt and Kim, Google them. Try typing in "Lessons Learned." See it? Yup, that's them stripping down to their birthday suits in the middle of New York City's Times Square.
The video was Matt's idea. Kim wasn't super-keen on getting buck naked in what is perhaps the busiest intersection in the world, in the brutal cold (it was shot in February), but she acquiesced. Actually, if you pay attention, you'll see that Kim ends up totally nude before Matt does. Bottom line: They both got balls. Their story goes like this: Matt (Johnson) and Kim (Schifino) met while they were students at Pratt Institute in Brooklyn. Kim thought Matt was hot; Matt was both intimidated and intrigued by Kim's tattoos. They started dating. They moved in together three months later.
They've shared a tour bus and a tiny apartment in Williamsburg, Brooklyn for the past six years. Now they're ready to move on. They just bought their first place in the Clinton Hill neighborhood of Brooklyn, and they're gearing up to trade their old furniture for some "grown-up" stuff. When they'll actually find time to move is questionable—they just finished recording their new album and were about to head out on a US tour shortly after this interview—but we thought it would be fun to take them furniture shopping in Brooklyn. Just ‘cause, you know, they really ought to consider getting a bigger bed.
So, tell us about this new place you guys just bought.
MATT: It's in [the Brooklyn neighborhood of] Clinton Hill. We both went to Pratt and we still have a certain love for the area— the tree-lined streets and stuff like that. It's a nice, cute little brownstone.
KIM: We're still having the contractors going in there and everything, so I have to say I'm terrified something's going to happen that makes us not get it. I've been a nervous wreck the past week.
M: You have to think positively. I mean, if we want it we have it, Kim.
Does it have outdoor space?
M: It does! I grew up in Vermont with nothing but outdoor space. My parents would open the door and be like, "See you later!" My brother and I would just take off into the numerous cow pastures and stuff. I've been [in New York City] 10 years and haven't had a lick of outdoor space. So it'll be nice to have. Kim is for some reason freaked out by grass though. She won't sit on it. She just wants to pave over it.
K: I'm excited about maybe getting a dog though. Sometimes we go to the dog park during lunchtime breaks or whatever and watch from the outside. You can't go in unless you have a dog. I always wonder if people are creeped out by us even being on the outside of the park, gawking at their dogs. There's this one kind of dog I want really badly. This is gonna sound so pathetic, but I have pictures cut from magazines of this dog. Matt knows what it is.
M: A Westie.
K: Yeah, that's it. We already named it. It's gonna be "Shorty." But I don't know, we're gone so much, it wouldn't be fair to him.
Did you have a hard time finding a place you both liked?
M: We did search for about a year, but we agreed on everything we wanted for the most part. Kim and I bizarrely agree on a lot of stuff, like way more than two people who spend 24 hours a day together should. Somehow we don't want to kill each other; that's the amazing thing. We're kind of the same person. We shared a cell phone for like six years.
How did you call each other?
M: We never had to—we're always together!